{"id":1146,"date":"2009-11-09T07:33:24","date_gmt":"2009-11-09T14:33:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/?p=1146"},"modified":"2009-11-09T10:10:19","modified_gmt":"2009-11-09T17:10:19","slug":"house-joint-hearing-on-hf-1182","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/?p=1146","title":{"rendered":"House joint hearing on HF 1182"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s a little confusing, because we&#8217;re inbetween, the House isn&#8217;t in session, but last Wednesday was the House Energy and Civil Justice committees hearing on HF 1182 and morphs of it since, and anticipate future morphs too.\u00c2\u00a0 In essence,\u00c2\u00a0 a free ranging discussion of utilities&#8217; exemption from eminent domain laws under Minn. Stat. 117.189.<\/p>\n<p>THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE IN THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION.\u00c2\u00a0 It will go to both of these committees, so to get a head start, let&#8217;s make sure everyone on the committee knows that utilities are not special!\u00c2\u00a0 Utilities should not be exempted from eminent domain landowner protections:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a class=\"moz-txt-link-freetext\" href=\"http:\/\/www.commissions.leg.state.mn.us\/lec\/members.htm\">http:\/\/www.commissions.leg.state.mn.us\/lec\/members.htm<\/a><br \/>\nHere\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Senate member info:<br \/>\n<a class=\"moz-txt-link-freetext\" href=\"http:\/\/www.senate.leg.state.mn.us\/members\/index.php?ls=#header\">http:\/\/www.senate.leg.state.mn.us\/members\/index.php?ls=#header<\/a><br \/>\nHere\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s House member info:<br \/>\n<a class=\"moz-txt-link-freetext\" href=\"http:\/\/www.house.leg.state.mn.us\/members\/hmem.asp\">http:\/\/www.house.leg.state.mn.us\/members\/hmem.asp<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Once more with feeling, thanks to Rep. David Bly for being ON this, persevering to support CapX affected landowners in 25B and throughout Minnesota.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s 117.189 with links to see what all perks utilities get:<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"margin: 0pt 37.9pt 0.0001pt 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\">117.189 PUBLIC<br \/>\nSERVICE CORPORATION EXCEPTIONS.<\/span><\/h1>\n<p class=\"first\" style=\"margin: 0pt 37.9pt 0.0001pt 36pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\">Sections <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.031#stat.117.031\">117.031<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.036#stat.117.036\">117.036<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.055#stat.117.055\">117.055<\/a>,  subdivision 2, paragraph (b); <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.186#stat.117.186\">117.186<\/a>;<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.187#stat.117.187\">117.187<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.188#stat.117.188\">117.188<\/a>;  and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.52#stat.117.52\">117.52<\/a>,\u00c2\u00a0  subdivisions 1a and 4, do not apply to public service corporations. For  purposes of an award of appraisal fees under section <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revisor.mn.gov\/statutes?id=117.085#stat.117.085\">117.085<\/a>,<br \/>\nthe fees awarded may not exceed $1,500 for all types of property except for a<br \/>\npublic service corporation\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s use of eminent domain for a high-voltage<br \/>\ntransmission line, where the award may not exceed $3,000. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>Those appraisal award limits were raised, but as Joyce Osborn, United Citizens Action Network, testified, her appraisal for the pipeline was more than twice that ceiling, so that still needs work.<\/p>\n<p>The appraiser&#8217;s testimony was best, direct hard hitting front-lines view, that the utilities do not need this exemption, and that the exemption is a subsidy for utilities.\u00c2\u00a0 That&#8217;s clear, simple, and it&#8217;s the truth.\u00c2\u00a0 Why this was allowed&#8230; well, think about it.\u00c2\u00a0 It was a time, 2006, when they supposedly were trying to reinforce the state&#8217;s eminent domain landowner protections after the Kelo decision.\u00c2\u00a0 But these utility exemptions &#8212; there was no explanation of why, but it would seem to me that, given the Kelo focus on &#8220;public purpose,&#8221; utilities would be awfully skittish about taking land for something like CapX 2020, which is private purpose, PROFIT, and not at all necessary for their charge as public service corporations.<\/p>\n<p>Then there&#8217;s the &#8220;party line&#8221; from ???\u00c2\u00a0 Rep. Mike Beard is parroting it, that the utilities can be exempted, should be exempted, because they have to go through the PUC process.\u00c2\u00a0 SAY WHAT!!!???!!!\u00c2\u00a0 The Certificate of Need process has nothing whatsoever to do with eminent domain.\u00c2\u00a0 A Certificate of Need is a basis for &#8220;need&#8221; claim for eminent domain, but it&#8217;s not true that, as he said, that utilities can&#8217;t get land without a Certificate of Need.\u00c2\u00a0 It&#8217;s very possible, either it&#8217;s a project that falls below the CoN threshold, or it&#8217;s one that goes under Local Review.<\/p>\n<p>And Rep. Steve Drazkowski was flailing and he deserves one of these &#8212; do his constituents know how he behaves?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/horsesassaward.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1147\" title=\"horsesassaward\" src=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/horsesassaward.jpg\" alt=\"horsesassaward\" width=\"147\" height=\"147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/horsesassaward.jpg 200w, https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/horsesassaward-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 147px) 100vw, 147px\" \/><\/a>Here&#8217;s the flyer we sent that he was waving around as if it were some terrorist manifesto:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/newsletter5.pdf\">NoCapX 2020 &amp; United Citizens Action Network Newsletter<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8230; notice of public meetings, the Nov. 4 hearing, info on Buy the Farm and questions landowners should ask&#8230; sounds pretty radical to me!!!<\/p>\n<p>And speaking of public meetings, it&#8217;s time to gear up for the Brookings EIS &#8220;meetings&#8221; (whatever happened to public HEARINGS?):<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">PUBLIC <\/span><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\">INFORMATION MEETING DATES &amp; LOCATIONS<\/span><\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<table style=\"border: medium none; width: 5.75in; border-collapse: collapse;\" border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" width=\"552\">\n<tbody>\n<tr style=\"height: 37.35pt;\">\n<td style=\"border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0in 1.45pt; width: 138.6pt; height: 37.35pt; background-color: transparent;\" width=\"185\">\n<p style=\"line-height: 14pt; text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 12, 2009 (Thursday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; width: 131.4pt; height: 37.35pt; background-color: transparent;\" width=\"175\">\n<p style=\"line-height: 14pt; text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 13, 2009<br \/>\n(Friday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; width: 1.8in; height: 37.35pt; background-color: transparent;\" width=\"173\">\n<p style=\"line-height: 14pt; text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 16, 2009 (Monday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 1.7in;\">\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; 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text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 17, 2009<br \/>\n(Tuesday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; width: 131.4pt; height: 37.45pt; background-color: transparent;\" width=\"175\">\n<p style=\"line-height: 14pt; text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 18, 2009 (Wednesday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; width: 1.8in; height: 37.45pt; background-color: transparent;\" width=\"173\">\n<p style=\"line-height: 14pt; text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: x-small;\">November 19, 2009 (Thursday)<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"height: 1.7in;\">\n<td style=\"padding: 0in 1.45pt; 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