{"id":57,"date":"2007-12-06T22:27:06","date_gmt":"2007-12-07T05:27:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/?p=57"},"modified":"2008-02-10T12:03:46","modified_gmt":"2008-02-10T19:03:46","slug":"need-for-capx-2020","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/?p=57","title":{"rendered":"Need for CapX 2020?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Do we need CapX 2020?  Does Xcel and GRE et al need CapX 2020?  What exactly is the need?<\/p>\n<p>When they made the first presentation on it at NM-SPG, I asked them if they&#8217;d compared the MISO queue with their transmisison plan, and no, they hadn&#8217;t.  Well, I sure have, and it doesn&#8217;t add up, the proposal isn&#8217;t tied to what new generation is expected to be added, except for the coal in the Dakotas&#8230; anyone can see that.<\/p>\n<p>The plan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/capx2020-powerpoint-p-7-big-picture-map.jpg\" title=\"capx2020-powerpoint-p-7-big-picture-map.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/capx2020-powerpoint-p-7-big-picture-map.jpg\" alt=\"capx2020-powerpoint-p-7-big-picture-map.jpg\" height=\"286\" width=\"371\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The MISO queue back when this CapX2020 Technical Report was prepared:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/capx-miso-queue-new-generation-p7jpg.jpg\" title=\"capx-miso-queue-new-generation-p7jpg.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/capx-miso-queue-new-generation-p7jpg.jpg\" alt=\"capx-miso-queue-new-generation-p7jpg.jpg\" height=\"261\" width=\"377\" \/><\/a>There was 16,712MW of new generation in the MISO queue, and 6,300 of claimed &#8220;need&#8221; in the REGION.  If they don&#8217;t build 10,000MW of what&#8217;s in the queue, we&#8217;ve still got enough to handle their overstated &#8220;need.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Take a look at this spreadsheet of the MISO queue as of December 4, 2007.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> <a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/miso-queue-dec-4-20071.xls\" title=\"MISO queue 12-4-07 in Excel\">MISO queue 12-4-07 in Excel<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve separated out a few states, and play around with sort, look at how many MW of coal is in the queue for SD, ND and MN, IA too, and&#8230; why&#8230; LOOK!!!  There&#8217;s over 10,000MW of wind in the Illinois queue.  Now where do the wind folks who want to build all this wind in ND and SD think they&#8217;re going to sell it?  And why should we pay for the transmission lines (that&#8217;s without even getting into line loss of a generation source with a 41% capacity factor over hundreds of miles of transmission)?<\/p>\n<p>Need?  Yeah, right &#8230; prove it!!!!<\/p>\n<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, check out this South Dakota report, it&#8217;s been on my Legalectric site for a awhile now, it&#8217;s by a defected Excelsior VP of something or other, Schulte, and it says, essentially, &#8220;Hey, we want to build all this coal and transmission, but we don&#8217;t have a market&#8230; now what???  Somebody find a market fast!&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> <a href=\"https:\/\/nocapx2020.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/sdeiaenergystudy.pdf\" title=\"SDEIA Energy Study\">SDEIA Energy Study<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is anyone paying attention?  And note it says wind\/gas is the cheapest option?!?!?   Delaware&#8217;s PSC is on the right track in ordering wind\/gas, that&#8217;s clear.  When will everyone else catch up?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Do we need CapX 2020? Does Xcel and GRE et al need CapX 2020? What exactly is the need? 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