Today is the first meeting of the CapX 2020 North Rochester-Rivercrossing Citizen Advisory Task Force. Thanks to Xcel’s Grant Stevenson for guidance on the AC!!! What would we do without electricity!!!! And even better, City of Plainview has wireless!

The work of the Task Force is to identify issues for scoping and to propose alternate routes. REMEMBER THIS, there will be a quiz at the end.
For those of you do not have the application yet, go here:
CAPX 2020 HAMPTON-ALMA APPLICATION PAGE
Here’s what I handed out during the break:
Handout for Advisory Task Force & Routing Criteria
The statute all along has said “Advisory Task Force” and I’m familiar with “Citizen Advisory Task Force,” and I wondered where the “Citizen” went, and was concerned that it wasn’t there. FOUND IT!!! It’s in the rules: Minn. R. 7850.2400 and Minn. R. 7850,3600.
I sent an email off to Karen Hammel, Asst. A.G. for Commerce on the Routing side of things, along with Ray Kirsch, the PUBLIC Advisor, and Matt Langen, the Project Manager for Commerce for this project:
Ms. Hammel, Mr. Langan, and Mr. Kirsch –
I attended the first meeting of the Hampton-North Rochester Advisory Task Force yesterday and was stunned to hear the facilitator’s statements, both to the group, and to me personally when I asked about it, that this was an exercise “ from the land use perspective” and that this would be done by “land use professionals” and that it was populated with “land use professionals” because it was to be from a “land use perspective” — and that this was the perspective and it was the one which he’d used for other groups he’d facilitated. He would not address my concerns about the narrowness of the focus.
The purpose of the task force is to review the application and raise issues to be covered in the EIS (scoping) and to propose alternate sites. As you know from the criteria in statute and rules (which Matt did provide to the members) there is much more than land use at issue — and these other issues will be shorted if members are trained on only the “land use” target.
I’m bringing this to your attention immediately — I’m not quite sure what else to do with it, though I’m sure I’ll think of something. The information requests I sent yesterday have been assigned to Alberto Quintela, and I look forward to reviewing the results.
Carol A. Overland
for NoCapX 2020 and United Citizen Action Network
So here we are in Plainview today. Only 7 members present, what a problem.
So far, questions about why only three meetings and whether the group could continue meeting, concern with the immense workload and volume of information (group can continue, but we can probably get our job done in 3 meetings, based on past experience), and a question about participation of U.S. Fish & Wildlife — answer was that USFWS won’t be sitting on this Task Force – the structure doesn’t provide for that.
Another question about other permits, and what permits are needed, noting that he didn’t want to be caught saying “Yeah, go ahead, it’s OK with me” when he really doesn’t know that much about what it means to cross a river and the impacts.
Charlie Moderator – Process – this is a concensus-based process, and if there is a vote, the vote has to be at least 60%, we try to balance. and at times I’ll be taking down ideas, and if I state that I think we have consensus and you wonder, call for a vote!
Next meetings – May 12, Wednesday, at same time, 1-4:30 p.m. is OK; then June 3, Thursday 1-4:30 p.m. is OK too!
I’ll keep updating this as we go — right now I’ve got to move so Tom Hillstrom can do his dog & pony…
Back from break – and I got a note from a little birdie:
Apparently there was a comment that a utility cannot take a Century Farm using eminent domain. Is this true??? There was a lot of talk about Century Farms in the Brookings-Hampton transmission line routing, but I’ve not heard that they can’t use eminent domain before. I checked with Grant Stevenson and he doesn’t know either… Hmmmmmmm, more on that later.
Now Grant Stevenson is explaining routing with an underbuild, saying that for 69kV they will do that, and for 161kV lines, they do not. Every double circuit line, they’re OK electrically, and for these, we propose double circuit, there’s about a 35% premium, but for the 161kV lines, they propose running adjacent to the line.
There’s been confusion about stray voltage v. EMF, and impacts on animals and humans, and here it was characterized as “stray voltage” affects animals and “EMF” affects humans, and never the twain shall meet. Hey, Tom Hillstrom, please google:
“stray voltage” human
and
EMF animal
Someone else brought up specific PUC criteria, another “recreation aesthetics” which MUST mean a ban on bike shorts!
Now they’re categorizing them, and this group has a much broader range of considerations.
There is much talk about using public corridors, and especially roads. Right away at the outset, the DOT Policy of Accomodation has to come into play:
MnDOT Policy of Utility Accomodation
And a question — are there DOT scenic easements that should be taken into account?
Something else to be worked in — all the scoping comments for the RUS EIS should be integrated into this EIS scoping!
And now, back to the meeting, they’re getting into the cost of constructing and maintaining line, substations.
I got a photo of the results of today’s session, and if I ever find my camera case with the USB connector I’ll be able to post it!!!
So at the end of the meeting, Charlie tells everyone that they should pick out 3 or 4 of their most important issues, that he anticipated they’d be narrowing down from the many items on the board. NARROWING DOWN?
QUIZ: What’s wrong with this picture? What’s the problem with narrowing down?
